Lauri Lebo's "The Devil in Dover"

"While I’ve had photographs published in a number of different venues, this marks the first book cover for me"

Once again, Wesley Elsberry has it covered! Congratulations.

"Another thread is the estrangement from Lauri’s fundamentalist father over the course of the case and trial. This is part of what made the whole case intensely personal as well as professionally challenging."

It never ceaases to amaze me how creationists always seem ready, willing and able to disown their own children simply because they refuse to swallow their parent's beliefs without question. For people claiming moral superiority, it seems like a rather inappropriate response. Perhaps they need to read their Bible more closely.

Now I haven't read the book and I am not familiar with the particulars in this case, but the preacher character in Inherit the Wind seems to pretty much capture the essence of this attitude.

@David Stanton

You miss the point -- their instruction manual says to honour your father and mother etc. Apparently the honour only goes one way.

AxS

Lebo’s willingness to recall the past and apply it to the present put her at odds with the editorial staff at the York Daily Record (YDR), whose notion of journalistic objectivity was closer to simply recording some quotes from opponents on a topic and relaying those pretty much directly to the public, with no evaluation of whether what was being said now was inconsistent with things asserted by the same party previously

Well, I've ordered the book and thanks for publicising it. The Dover trial was a hilarious catalogue of incompetence and comeuppance for the cdesign proponentists, and one that had me chuckling for hours over my internet screen here in NZ, although my family do think that I'm a little cracked as a result.

Good luck to Lauri with her sales.

I've moved a batch of things not having a whole lot to do with Lebo's book to the Bathroom Wall.

Feel free to carry on there.

In some ways, the clearest line of demarcation was between those who avidly read the local newspapers (virtually all the plaintiffs) and those who scorned them (virtually all the pro-intelligent-design school-board members). Unusually for a small American city these days, York, Pennsylvania, which is eight miles from Dover, has two vigorous newspapers: a morning paper called the York Daily Record and an afternoon paper called the York Dispatch. (Dover itself does not have a newspaper.) Most of the plaintiffs in this case first learned of the plans of the Dover school board from reading the York papers, which have covered the controversy closely.

As far as I know, Argento is still working for the York Daily Record. He also plays in a band with Lauri's husband Jeff.

I should also note Mike Argento's weblog.

While I’ve had photographs published in a number of different venues, this marks the first book cover for me.

In this case, he's judging a book cover by the cover.

Flint: In this case, he's judging a book cover by the cover.

But on the bright side, at least he wasn't off key...

And, if true, you find this troublesome in what way? Please do share your objections so that we may choose from the many examples of ID/creo dishonesty in this vein with which to slap you upside the head.

Golly, it seems WW is sore from being on the losing end of an exchange of wit. Kudos to Flint on that great response.

I promoted J.K. Rowlings' final "Harry Potter" book before it was released, too. I don't see a problem here.
I haven't suggested that people game the Amazon review system, after all. In both cases, we already had seen a lot of writing from each author and could reasonably hope for more good stuff in the new offerings. The dust cover design, brilliant as it is for Lauri's new book, is a minor side note, not the basis for expecting great things in the content.

I'll be happy to redirect further meta-commentary to the Bathroom Wall as needed.

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Before I read Greg's post, it never occurred to me that people in other countries followed the Dover trial. As an American, it's as embarrassing as the pregnant chad fiasco.

David Stanton: It never ceaases to amaze me how creationists always seem ready, willing and able to disown their own children simply because they refuse to swallow their parent's beliefs without question. For people claiming moral superiority, it seems like a rather inappropriate response. Perhaps they need to read their Bible more closely.

Wesley,

Thanks for the promo of Lauri's book. I remember her from the PBS film on Dover. I look forward to reading more of her story from her point of view. That said I have "pre-ordered" a copy.

I am currently reading (low on the stack of current) "Monkey Girl" by Edward Humes.

-DU-

You miss the point – their instruction manual says to honour your father and mother etc. Apparently the honour only goes one way.

— Arccodath

"Before I read Greg’s post, it never occurred to me that people in other countries followed the Dover trial."

I, too, followed the Dover trial from this far and Antipodean land, and I read Judge Jones' erudite and devastating judgement verbatim and with the keenest pleasure.

Occasionally, fears are expressed here that the US is slipping into the grip of religious fundamentalism and hence a new dark age. We have our share of idiots and bigots here, of course - indeed, we seem to have exported several of them to America - but we have nothing on the scale of creationism in the US, not even proportionally. Put simply, no attempt to place creationism in any guise on an Australian public school science curriculum would be remotely possible. It wouldn't get to first base. It wouldn't even get out of the dugout. We observe such attempts getting as far as a courtroom in the US, and we scratch our heads and worry.

We are wrong to worry, I think. The US is not going to abrogate its own most deeply held values and submit to theocracy, and Judge Jones proved it.

CREATION SCIENCE Pastor Paul Locke

I have just watched the Intelligent Design versus Evolution court case and was surprised on how ill prepared the pro creation side presented evidence. Judge Jones surely had to allow the Bible to be used if it was presented as a scientific document. To argue that Evolution is not a part of science is untrue and Evolution can be clearly shown in some instances. What the Bible teaches about creation is true also and can be scientifically proven to the satisfaction of all parties.

The first thing is to prove the truth of the Bible and this has been given by God for such a time as this. The Pentateuch or the first five books of the Bible has been faithfully kept accurate and unchanged by Jewish scholars. In recent years since the introduction of high speed computers it has been discovered that coded messages exist only in the Pentateuch that confirm the New Testament. These codes are equal letter spacing codes that reveal names such as Jesus, his disciples, the names of the high priests, King Herod, and Pontius Pilate. Scientifically these messages could not have been created by man but by God.

The Bible now being true we shall look at the Creation historic narratives that do not really focus on actual days but sequences in time. The main argument of Evolutionists is the fossils of past life and I confirm they do exist and are evidence. This fossil evidence only proves they did exist and not that they evolved or were created. The Bible tells us that the animals were created before man, and Adam was to subdue and name them.

Prior to Adam there were humanoids and ape men according to fossils and the Bible. We see that these humanoids are called Nephilim who were on the earth before and after the flood. (Gen 6:4)(Num 13:33) This is proof they were animals because only eight people were on the Ark. Goliath and his four brothers were Nephilim and were giant sons of Anak. It is possible that the present day Big Foot is one of these giants. Dinosaurs were on the earth after the flood and are mentioned as unclean food, the Monitor, and the Giant Lizard. (Lev 11:29-30) I guess the non Jews ate the dinosaurs.

Finally we deal with man who was created in the image of God, and they looked like other humanoids but the distinct difference is they not only had a soul (mind) but God’s Spirit. Adam was clothed with the Holy Spirit and that Glory left him after sin; therefore he was then naked in his own eyes. The condition of fallen man is equal to the animals and is restored to Glory through the Baptism of the Holy Spirit given by Jesus. Is there any wonder why men act like animals?
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Yes, and not only that, the plays of Shakespeare reveal that they were written by Francis Bacon, the Earl of Oxford, Christopher Marlowe, the entire College of Cardinals, and Pope Julius II.

And if I switch my brain off, we can babble nonsense in stereo. Think of that!