ID Movement: Digging Holes in the High Road

Large meaningless words that break down upon inspection: check.
Tirade against the science establishment keeping you down: check.
Flash animations: check.

Looks like that's all you need to look like you're doing science. Anyone check to see if those were dembski's underpants in those videos? I didn't know he could dance!

Well, I didn't really think that Luskin took the high road by any reasonable definition of the expression. His post was simply unsophisticated rhetoric. Now-a-days it's not very PC making similar discriminatory remarks against negroes or retards, but it's apparently still OK to do it against "Darwinists".

This reminds me of the GOP's little vote on which Democratic candidate was the scariest.

The internet certainly does invent a new level of ridiculous everyday.

This DI crowd has to be the creepiest group of people. They are disgusting. They are quite desperate if you ask me

Funny. "Support Academic freedom Wear EXPELLED Apperal [sic]"

Casey Luskin piously intones: "I just hope that such e-mailers were able to let go of their intense anger and hatred and find some reason for giving thanks over this holiday season."

Huh? "Intense anger and hatred?" I thought I spent my Thanksgiving blogging time joking around about whether Popeye was the designer. (See Seeing Red thread. And, no, it has nothing to do with anger.)

In the interests of full disclosure, though, I should probably mention that my husband served champagne mimosas at Thanksgiving brunch. They may have taken the edge off my "intense anger and hatred." ;-)

At least we know now where their research dollars go.

This is the level of maturity that these ID folks have. The same mentality behind this juvenile foolishness is that which created their "alternative theory" and fails utterly to comprehend the difference between evidence and wishful thinking, much as one finds in any given pre-schooler.

This video serves as an excellent reminder of why the IDolators have contributed to science precisely what fart jokes have contributed to science.

ID: the intellectual equivalent of flatulence.

Sigh.

ID: the intellectual equivalent of flatulence.

Is it me or does Christopher Hitchen's head kind of look like Hugh Jackman in that photo?

Well, the video is still up at expelledthemovie.com, but the Embarrassed Scrubbing has begun, starting with Uncommon Descent (see the hat tip link above).

Cheers, Dave

Is it me or does Christopher Hitchen’s head kind of look like Hugh Jackman in that photo?

— Chris Pelletier

. . . the Embarrassed Scrubbing has begun . . .

No farty noises?

Sigh.

— heddle

You know what your problem is Heddle? You and ID are conjoined at the head. And you’ve never even noticed.

I don't believe anything published at Evolution News and Views. If in fact they got e-mails from people "who felt that “Judgment Day” was heavily biased and inaccurate, including e-mails from educators and teachers who thanked us for correcting the misinformation promoted by PBS", then they should PUBLISH the e-mails for all to see, as well as the hateful e-mails they got in their entirety from "Darwinists". Since it seems they did not, that only reinforces my preception that the ID promoters are twisted liars who can't refute their opposition, so they slander them instead.

By contrast, Richard Dawkins publishes HIS feeedback, good, bad, and ugly:
http://richarddawkins.net/goodBadUgly

And there is also this:
http://www.noanswersingenesis.org.au/cre_not_alt_to_evo2.htm

Why can't Evolution News and Spews do the same?

Ben Stein is a discredited, talentless hack. If you think you're upset about an irrelevant creationist movie, imagine how you'd feel if you followed Ben Stein's disastrous financial advice.

One wonderful example: this August, Stein advised people to buy MER just weeks before they wrote down $5 billion dollars in subprime losses and fired their CEO. Just one example of many.

Ben Stein is an ignorant fool. Anyone who listens to him is worse, and worse off.

Hey, we got THREE posts here dealing with the exact same subject!

http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/11/id-movement-dig.html

http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/11/the-discovery-i-7.html

http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/11/luskin-flogs-th.html

Dale Husband: Hey, we got THREE posts here dealing with the exact same subject!

I laughed out loud, actually.

Now, remember that it's a pre-fab, stick-in-a-picture-of-your-granny, JibJab site, rather than anything especially creative, so we can't give them credit for being clever or inventive. But there's no point in getting bent out of shape over a little humor. As a correspondent wrote me, "even something inane and stupid can still be funny."

And those don't look AT ALL like my underdrawers.

Genie

So, what this tells us is that evolution might lead to dancing? Eek! Say it ain't so!

Hey, we got THREE posts here dealing with the exact same subject!

— Dale Husband

But there’s no point in getting bent out of shape over a little humor.

— Eugenie C. Scott

"I enjoyed celebrating Thanksgiving by being thankful for the people in my life. I just hope that such e-mailers were able to let go of their intense anger and hatred and find some reason for giving thanks over this holiday season."

"So, what this tells us is that evolution might lead to dancing? Eek! Say it ain’t so!"

Makes sense the fundies would oppose evolution, since they're against pre-marital sex because it might lead to dancing.

Mike from Ottawa: "So, what this tells us is that evolution might lead to dancing? Eek! Say it ain’t so!" Makes sense the fundies would oppose evolution, since they're against pre-marital sex because it might lead to dancing.

Those are not the type of people that I want to see get a hold of science education. They are ignorant self serving bunch of bigots. The more I hear about the Discovery Institute the more sick I feel in my stomach. Discovery Institute, good riddance!

Mike wrote:

"Makes sense the fundies would oppose evolution, since they’re against pre-marital sex because it might lead to dancing."

Nice logic. Or, as one Baptist minister told me: "we're against sex before marriage and we're not too sure about after marriage either."

But seriously, every time some creationist accuses a scientist of being uncivil or impolite we should bring stuff like this up. What a bunch of clueless retards. How can they possibly complain about civility when they pull crap like this? How can these morons say they want to be taken seriously and then stoop to this level of silliness? Still, it seems oddly appropriate considering the title contains the phrase "no intelligence allowed". They sure lived up to that billing.

Of course if they think this is all fun and games then we could have a contest to see what low-brow raunchy crap we can come up with to poke fun at them. I guess as long as it involves farting, underpants and dancing they won't be able to complain, at least not without being hypocritical. Oh, wait ... never mind.

By the way, has anyone tried out the "Big Science Academy" link? That should be good for a hoot or two.

I can't see why Baylor is reluctant to get involved with Dembski and the ID movement. If the farty noise animation of Judge Jones didn't convince the Baylor administration that ID is on the cutting edge of research, then this latest clip should certainly do the trick, wouldn't you think?

… the Embarrassed Scrubbing has begun …

— noncarborundum

My motto is ‘once on the web, always on the web.’

Oh what a tangled web they weaved...