Do you all know any climate skeptics . . . named Steve?

Steve McIntyre A Steve Global warming Skeptic

Miller did say that they could get back to him because it was an unexpected question.

Steven Milloy Another one

Steve Milloy is however not a climate scientist

Neither is Stephen McIntyre.

I fear that ExxonMobile will now be on a desperate search for scientists named Steve whose research they can fund, provided, of course, the results of the research are suitable.

But they are climate skeptics

PvM: But they are climate skeptics

when confronted by a climate skeptic I tell them I have an open mind, then I ask for peer reviewed science that supports their view. The subject usually gets changed and I never hear from them again.

On entering the library, there are 2 tables, the table on the left (global warming) is stacked to the ceiling with peer reviewed literature. The table on the right (denier) has a single sheet of paper and it is not peer reviewed, its got Rush's picture on it. Each table features a promoter, the right wingers believe the the guy on the right and avoid the left table. Strange!

Rush the band or Rush the OxyContin addict?

Steve, schmeve, why didn't he ask them about "Project Miller"? "Project K. Miller" to be specific. Scientists who not only accept evolution but also defend it against misrepresentation include at least 2 K. Millers, Kenneth and Keith. I'm not sure about those scientists who are incredulous of anthropogenic global warming (I suspect that they are not "skeptics" in the scientific sense), but I doubt that there are any who signed the dissent from "Darwinism" statement.

I live in NC. I like Brad Miller. While I'm skeptical, because he's a politician, I'm less skeptical than I am with other politicos.

I'm a little worried about connecting global warming to evolution in this fashion and yet it seems to be coming more common. (And the pro-evolution pro-scientific consensus aren't the only ones doing it. For example the DI has been involved in some global warming skepticism as well, and UncommonDescent has hosted some also). I think that most of us would agree that the probability that the scientific consensus is wrong about evolution is likely substantially lower than the probability that the scientific consensus is wrong about about global warming. (Asides: I'm using probability of being wrong rather than probability of being right because two numbers both very close to 1 aren't very helpful. Also, I know that there are philosophical and mathematical issues with discussing probability about these sorts of situations. It may be helpful to think of the "probabilities" simply in terms of what ratios one would be willing to bet). So here's the issue: First, it isn't clear that that much is gained by linking evolution to global warming in the public mind. Second, if global warming turns out to not be occurring(ridiculous unlikely but arguably not as unlikely as evolution being wrong) or turns out to not be manned made (more likely, still most likely wrong) then we give the anti-evolutionists a powerful rhetorical tool. I'm not sure we want to risk getting into that position.

I agree with Joshua. The issues of evolution and global warming are not related.

I believe that man induced global warming is occurring because of overwhelming evidence that 1) the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is increasing; 2) the isotope rations of the carbon dioxide shows that the increase is due to fossil fuels; 3) historical temperatures have increased as carbon dioxide increases.

We need to reduce fossil fuel usage and carbon dioxide emissions. We need government plans to help us.

However, I have two problems with some of the global warming educators. Firstly, there are way too many variables to accurately predict the future. One of my child's teachers told her class that in 10 years New York City would be under water. Predictions such as these are based upon apocalyptic speculation more than on scientific analysis. There are also correlations made between global warming and other events (i.e. Hurricane Katrina) that are not supported by hard evidence.

If some other natural force (i.e. asteroid, volcanic eruption, etc) causes changes that override man-made global warming, then the predictions of the "scientists" that the world will be underwater in 10 years will look as silly as the predictions by the "scientists" of Newsweek and Time in the 1970s that we were about to undergo an ice age.

Paul R. Ehrlich is another scientist (Crafoord Prize winner and NOT Paul Ehrlich the Nobel Prize winner) who made predictions that did not come true. From Wikipedia: Ehrlich wrote that "the battle to feed all of humanity is over ... In the 1970s and 1980s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now." Ehrlich also stated, "India couldn't possibly feed two hundred million more people by 1980," and "I have yet to meet anyone familiar with the situation who thinks that India will be self-sufficient in food by 1971." His work is used by creationists as evidence against evolution. I hope that current specific predictions made by scientists, educators, and politicians are not used against evolution 20 years from now.

I’m a little worried about connecting global warming to evolution in this fashion and yet it seems to be coming more common.

Although there are many possible contingencies that can affect climate (including asteroids or massive volcano eruptions), the relationship of evolution to global warming is still in the background. There is sufficient historical evidence that extreme environmental stresses cause by climate, radiation, environmental degradation, etc. have all played a role in the evolution of life on Earth.

Maybe the specific predictions of Malthus and others were off the mark by a couple of centuries, but the general effects of overpopulation on environment still remain. This planet is finite, and eventually the environmental consequences of overpopulation will put sufficient strains on the current species that evolution will continue in unforeseen directions. And maybe not in the directions we would like.

Just as climate change affects life forms, so do life forms affect climate. Given this, it is a bit difficult to completely separate the theory of biological evolution from the (more primitive) theories of climate evolution.

This planet is finite...

The wonderful thing about human beings is that we are adapatable to finite resources, namely through markets and technology.

Edwin,

Much of the reason that those demographic catastrophes didn't occur was due to the good work of scientists like Norman Borlaug.

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It might be helpful to describe what one means by a climate change skeptic. For example if someone argues that yes, we are living in a warming world but it won't be a major catastrophe does that make one a "climate change skeptic?"

we are adapatable to finite resources, namely through markets and technology.

It might be helpful to describe what one means by a climate change skeptic. For example if someone argues that yes, we are living in a warming world but it won’t be a major catastrophe does that make one a “climate change skeptic?”

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