Sure, but... so what? Why should scientific inquiry have to "satisfy" religion? An appeal to something akin to S. J. Gould's Non-Overlapping Magisteria (NOMA) seems definitely out of place here. NOMA applies to religion's and science's respective fields of interest (metaphysics vs. the natural, physical world), not to each other. Religious practice, though metaphysics-inspired, is not metaphysical, but an activity of physical beings in a physical world. As such, it is very much within the scope of scientific investigation. So are, of course, all religious claims which derive from metaphysical principles but purportedly affect the physical realm. While, fortunately, science in itself does not advance metaphysical claims (that's not to say that scientists sometimes don't, but that's different), science can't help addressing the physical consequences of metaphysical propositions, as when it denies that the creation account in Genesis can be literally true. In other words, science can have metaphysical implications, which theologians can and do argue about, as a consequence of the straying of religion from the metaphysical realm. The reverse, science directly advancing metaphysical claims, happens rarely if at all - at least, I honestly can't think of any genuine examples. (And that's why the recurrent Creationist complaints that evolutionary biology is traipsing into religion's territory, and thus violates the Establishment Clause, are nonsense: it is some forms of metaphysics which sneak into the reach of scientific investigation, and usually end up looking the worse for it, non vice-versa. The many Deists who contributed to the writing of the U.S. Constitution well understood the difference.) Even Dawkins's bold assertion, in The God Delusion, that the existence of God is a scientifically testable hypothesis like any other, in practice ends up referring to forms of metaphysics with direct, testable effects on the natural realm (arguably, to forms of divinity which themselves end up being part of the natural realm, and subject to certain natural constraints). For instance, Deism and Einsteinian spirituality, while discussed by Dawkins, are not targeted by his God-denying arguments. The main justification for Sloan's suggestion that religious claims ought to be excluded from scientific inquiry is made explicit in the second part of Sloan's excerpt. He points to certain clinical studies that suggest that religious believers tend to be, in aggregate, in better health than non-religious "controls", and warns that this kind of studies could have the "unintended consequence" of providing support for some forms of religious practice vs others, at least in terms of health outcomes.Religion and science are independent approaches to knowledge, and neither can be reduced to the other. Religion and science are fundamentally different, with the former relying on faith as a source of wisdom and the latter demanding evidence. Religious truths generally are considered to be enduring and not subject to change. Scientific truths, on the other hand, are completely dependent on evidence, and as new evidence emerges, scientific truths change accordingly. For these reasons, attempts to understand religious experience by scientific means can never be satisfying to religion. They can satisfy only science.
Well, why indeed. Modern medical science is based precisely on comparing the outcomes of different interventions in order to choose the most effective to maximize quality and/or quantity of life. And once the data are known, it is standard medical practice to allow every patient to follow the course of intervention that most satisfies one's individual preferences and goals. Most of us would consider having the choice between more or less aggressive cancer therapy options, weighing quality of life and survival expectancy issues, to be an absolute positive. I see no reason why the very same should not apply to the option of choosing between different religious practices based on similar parameters, should they be shown to indeed significantly affect life expectancy. In fact, assuming the health benefit of religious practice could be satisfactorily demonstrated, even if the effect of changing one's religious practice were just marginal on an individual level (say, one month's longer lifespan on average), the cumulative effect at population level could be enormous, giving the vast numbers of faithful. Just from a public health perspective, it should arguably be considered unethical not to investigate the issue and disseminate the results. Sloan cites two reasons why he fears this information shouldn't be researched and made available. First:If we are truly interested in collecting information relevant to health outcomes, then we should want to know whether it is better for our health to attend a Catholic mass or a Quaker meeting. Are Orthodox Jewish services better for our health than Reform services? Is there a health advantage to praying five times a day, as Muslims do, as opposed to the three times of Orthodox Jews? Why is it acceptable to determine that more-frequent attendance at religious services is better for your health than less-frequent attendance, but it is not acceptable to determine that Christian services are better for your health than attending Jewish or Muslim services?
But how can having more information "dumb" anything down? How is the voluntary inclusion of tested, quantifiable parameters on health effects in one's choice of religious practice any "dumber" than choosing a religious affiliation because of family or ethnic group tradition, or based on someone else's preaching persuasiveness, as most people do? It's not like knowledge of health outcomes will necessarily force anyone to convert, as Sloan's own comparison with issues related to diet and exercise abundantly - pun intended - show. People weigh costs and benefits of their actions all the time, and make individually tailored decisions (sometimes smart, sometimes dumb): why should religion be different? Face it, religion already is, at least in part and whether we are conscious of it or not, the result of subjective cost and benefit analyses (e.g., between the time and economic cost of religious practice and the social and psychological benefits one derives from it). Adding scientifically quantifiable parameters about health effects to the mix is hardly going to be more damaging to religious practice than allowing stores to open of the Sabbath (which was also hotly contested by churches, fearing competition for the faithfuls' time) was, and the upside is obvious. Of course, one cause for caution in considering studies about religion is the significant rate of sub-standard science done in that area, something that Sloan knows well and is in fact the main focus of his book. But Sloan's own argument seems to me counterproductive in this respect, by reinforcing the stigma attached to this kind of research: as long as a scientific examination of religion-related claims is seen as "out of bounds" or inappropriate by scientists and the public at large, only strongly ideologically and religiously motivated scientists will tend to undertake the research, increasing the risk of conscious or unconscious investigator bias. The (sometime overlapping) area of research into alternative medicine suffers from the very same problem. Sloan's second reason for keeping science's paws off religion is even more troubling:It undoubtedly is true that we can submit religious ritual and experiences to scientific study to determine if they are associated with beneficial health outcomes. But to do so runs the risk of trivializing the religious experience, making it no different from other medical recommendations made by physicians. If attending religious services becomes no different than consuming a low-fat diet or getting regular exercise, a great deal will have been lost. Bringing religion into the world of the scientist must by definition reduce religion to measurable indices that strip it of the sense of transcendence that distinguishes it from other aspects of our lives. Doing this dumbs religion down, making it so bland and universally acceptable that it has lost all of its meaning.
and later:Although science allows us to conduct such a study, ethics and religion ought to tell us how ridiculous such a comparison would be. In today's world (and in the past as well), we have ample evidence of religious strife. This should not diminish the value that religion has for many people, but no one can dismiss the fact that religious factionalism has been responsible for conflict at the societal and familial level for thousands of years.
This is really stunning, in my opinion. Sloan seems to suggest we should not investigate whether a form of religious practice is better than another (or none at all) from an objectively quantifiable health perspective in order not to upset the proponents of any one religion, and thus contribute to "religious strife". Never mind that medicine has been doing this for centuries already, vis-a-vis for instance the health benefits of shamanism as practiced by most animistic cultures, without guilt pangs or second thoughts. That it still is doing it, daily, when testing and dismissing the health claims of believers in New Age spirituality. Is it just because animists and New Age proponents, unlike other religionists, are not at enough risk of being violent to cause widespread concern? Or just not influential enough to actively advocate, socially and politically, against science and medicine? Who decides what forms of religious practice should be granted this "get out of the lab free" card? I sure hope Sloan satisfactorily clarifies this in his book, because failing to do so may in itself promote religious strife. (In all frankness, actually, shouldn't we welcome any rational, well-grounded and effective argument that can contribute to the voluntary mass abandonment of any religious practice whose potential for violence we are so afraid of, that we ponder the opportunity to even advance such an argument in the first place? Even considering the possible short-term cost, is there any doubt society would be better off in the long run without such a potentially destructive form of religious practice? But I guess that's a discussion for a different time, and web site.) Sloan raises several important and controversial questions here, issues that I think are crucial for the public, not just for scientists, physicians and theologians, to ponder. He is right when he decries the infiltration of religious activity into medical practice (though I suspect this is less prevalent than his book seems to suggest), and may well be right when he suggests that mixing religion and medicine can be toxic. However, I suspect that his proposed solution, granting religious practice immunity from scientific investigation, is short-sighted and counterproductive. With the appropriate protective equipment and precautions, even the most toxic reactions can be safely made to run their course, and once any noxious gases dissipate, the products can be valuable. That beats just storing the reagents forever in their cabinets, hoping they'll never mix.Bringing religion into the "laboratory" of the scientist cannot help but contribute to the inevitable comparisons of the "scientifically established" virtues of one religion, or one type of religious practice, over others. In a world riven with religious factionalism and strife, it's hard to think of a worse idea.
19 Comments
wamba · 7 November 2006
mark · 7 November 2006
In the past, as well as today, peoples of one religion have tried to convert peoples of different religions. Also in the past, as well as today (at least for some) religion provided the explantions for myriad natural phenomena. Nowadays, for many, scientific investigation provides the explanations for more and more phenomena. Where is there a natural break separating those things that science should investigate, and those that it should not? And when has tolerance for other religions become universal? Doesn't society already risk "upsetting" practitioners of certain sects by insisting on interventions such as vaccination, blood transfusion, and more?
wamba · 7 November 2006
J-Dog · 7 November 2006
Wamba - Don't you know all things are possible for God Almighty? Rock On!
Daniel Morgan · 7 November 2006
Sloan is certainly no friend to religion. He spoke to the ffrf back in 2000, and his book will solidly debunk the myth that prayer or religion improve your health.
wamba · 7 November 2006
I think if religionists want to claim compatibility with science, they shouldn't tippy-toe around hoping not to have their feet stepped on, they should instead embrace the scientific method and its findings, no matter the consequences to their pet beliefs:
Pastor, son unearth sea reptile fossil
Andrea Bottaro · 7 November 2006
Christopher Letzelter · 7 November 2006
Andrea Bottaro wrote:
"I just think his recipe - to leave religious claims off the bench altogether, at least for a while - is mistaken and counterproductive. It just reinforces the idea that anything having to do with religion should be immune from critique, including scientific analysis, and reinforces the stereotype that research in the field is inappropriate, or "fringe", despite its potentially major public health significance."
Absolutely! That's been the problem with civilizations all along and it's why we have terrorists flying airplanes into buildings today - because religion has almost always been regarded as exempt from criticism. As a result, it is also exempt from critical analysis and serious scientific analysis, especially by it's own adherents.
Chris
'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank · 7 November 2006
Daniel Morgan · 7 November 2006
boojieboy · 7 November 2006
It seems to me that the investigation of the health advantages of particular faiths may, rather than bolstering some groups' beliefs about the inherent superiority of their faith, have an opposite and beneficial effect: communicated effectively, it may teach many faiths about which aspects of a particular faith are most powerful in promoting health, thus leading people of many faiths to adapt their faiths so as to take advantage of those features.
To suggest an hypothetical example:
Imagine that researchers determine that individualistic, meditative, contemplative practices are highly effective at beating stress, and that this leads to long term health benefits. Most major faiths have meditative components in place already, it's just that some don't emphasize them in their adherents so much. How hard would it be for them to rejigger their religious prescriptions so as to increase how much time their individual adherents are expected to practice meditation of one form or another?
I'm thinking, not hard at all...
Sir_Toejam · 8 November 2006
I'm not sure, myself, that proving to these people that there exists not one iota of evidence to substantiate their claim even matters to them. They will find some other justification for their beliefs, or excuse God's indolence in answering prayers and healing believers via some theological device or another.
indeed, one could read Sloan's arguments this way as well.
AlefSin · 8 November 2006
wamba · 8 November 2006
Michael Suttkus, II · 8 November 2006
mark · 8 November 2006
You're right, Lenny, I did overgeneralize. But for those two religions that did make conversion a priority in the past, many practitioners still see it as a priority today.
Andrea Bottaro · 8 November 2006
Pierce R. Butler · 8 November 2006
Douglas Theobald · 8 November 2006