KansasMorons.com

Posted 17 November 2005 by

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I hate to divert attention from the fascinating serious discussion (for the most part) taking place in response to my last post, The fundamental (and wrong) religious argument of the IDists in Kansas, but you all really should take a look at the new website KansasMorons.com. (Motto: "Welcome to Kansas, please set your watch back 100 years.") For a start, read the first page of the "Kansas Teachers Guide to Intelligent Design", a parody of a introductory letter by Kansas state Board member Connie Morris. Here's the text, but you really need to download the real thing to get the full flavor of this:

Dear Kansas Teahching Proffsional, As you probibally had already herd, The Kansas Bored of Edukation has recently voted to teach alternatives to the Theory of Evoluition. As I have said before publicly, Evoluion is an "age-old fairytale", as opposed to Intellgient Design, which is based on faith, bible scripture, and other non-fairytales. We are also happy to announce that, in our finite wisdom, we have also decided to redefine the word "Science" to include the comptemplation of supernatural explanations for natural phenomenon. I am so excited! Although this will now allow Kansas Science teachers to teach Witchcraft, Satanism, VooDoo Worship, and Advanced Flat-Earth Theory, right along with our right-wing Christian views of science, we feel that we owe it to our students who would otherwise only be exposed to boring old logical and rational ways of thinking. With that, I am happy to present to you a copy of the new "Intelligent Design Teachers Guide". Please use it to stimulate conversation, but also feel free to branch out and encourage your students to invent intelligent design theories of their own. This learning package was also supposed to include a Ouija Board, candles, incense, and a Magic 8 Ball, but the budget wouldn't permit it. If I'm re-elected and not ousted by some fancy "book-learnin' elitest, sexular-humanest", I plege to get you those things, God willing. We hope you make the most of this material, and support our crusade to destroy the pubic edukiton system, and to keep Kansas the laughing stock of the Nation. Sinsurly, Connie Morris

(By the way, lest you think this parody is excessive, compare this to a real newsletter Connie sent out this June) The Lawrence Journal World interviewed me the day KansasMorons was unleashed upon the world:

"Boy, somebody's been hard at work," said Jack Krebs, president of the Kansas Citizens for Science, a group opposed to adding intelligent design to the state's science standards. Krebs, a math teacher at Oskaloosa High School, said he didn't know who was behind the site. "Different people respond to ridiculous situations in different ways," Krebs said. "For some it's indignant outrage, for others it's humor --- the only thing left to do is laugh at it." Krebs compared the site to Comedy Central's television program "The Daily Show." Both, he said, show "it's easier to swallow the news with a dose of humor than it is to just swallow the news."

So visit KansasMorons, peruse the site, and have a good laugh or two. P.S. The site says that donations in excessive of what it takes to maintain the site will be sent to Kansas Citizens for Science and the Kansas Science Teachers Association.

63 Comments

Russell · 17 November 2005

(By the way, lest you think this parody is excessive, compare this to a real newsletter Connie sent out this June)

I just did. Yikes! It's hard to tell which one is the parody.

'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank · 17 November 2005

ROFLMAO !!!!!!!

Wonderful. :>

steve s · 17 November 2005

The real letter is just amazing. How do you mock something like that?

It's also a study in how to look stupid by capitalizing, underlining, and boldfacing every other sentence.

conpas · 17 November 2005

I am just glad that Kansas is there to take the heat off of us Kentuckians for backwardness. Now maybe people will stop putting tucky and the end of what might be considered a backwards city and start using ansas as in Taylortucky can now be called Tayloransas.

KL · 17 November 2005

(By the way, lest you think this parody is excessive, compare this to a real newsletter Connie sent out this June)

No kidding! She only left out the part where the world was ending and the government is controlling our thought. Hand her a tin (aluminum) foil hat, someone!

NBPD · 17 November 2005

This Amazon review of Connie Morris's book shown at KansasMorons.com suggests that she's an NPD/BPD, which would be very, very serious, if true. Jack, in your effort to undo the damage of these nuts in Kansas, consider using insights from these books. These are serious disorders, and the weaknesses arising from them can be used.

argy · 17 November 2005

Sue Gamble is most continually disruptive and rude as she repeatedly ignores statements made moments before as she's vexed for ways to entangle a discussion or make it about religion and in her view -- therefore a fowl.

They have turkeys on the Kansas Board of Education? And they're the reasonable ones?!

Hyperion · 17 November 2005

Actually, NBPD makes an interesting point. There was a biographical story regarding Mrs. Morris' teenage years not too long ago that mentioned LSD use, I believe, in the context of the "sins" that led her to find religion. If I am remembering this incorrectly, please forgive me and go ahead and delete this post, I'd hate to actually say this if it weren't true.

Anyways, while LSD use does not, in and of itself, cause any kind of psychiatric disorder, it does often exacerbate existing underlying psychiatric disorders such as schizophrenia, bipolar, and borderline personality disorders. If Mrs. Morris did have such an underlying psychiatric disorder, and this biography is true, then it could easily explain these symptoms.

Brian Spitzer · 17 November 2005

(By the way, lest you think this parody is excessive, compare this to a real newsletter Connie sent out this June)
What a harrowing read. It seems to me, Jack, that if you want to win in Kansas, a fine place to start would be making that document as widely available as possible. For my part, I think I will begin paying closer attention to the elections for the Board of Education in my state.

Dan Hocson · 17 November 2005

I'm flabbergasted by the fact that a state official can get away with sending out a blatantly pro-religion newsletter like that.

I'm a federal employee, and if I sent out something like that, you can bet there would be a nice juicy letter of reprimand waiting for me.

'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank · 17 November 2005

What a harrowing read. It seems to me, Jack, that if you want to win in Kansas, a fine place to start would be making that document as widely available as possible.

Including in court.

Mike Walker · 18 November 2005

It's also a study in how to look stupid by capitalizing, underlining, and boldfacing every other sentence.

It's not hard to find where she got her inspiration for the formatting of her newsletter: http://tbn.org/about/newsletter/pdf/5_XII.pdf :-)

James Taylor · 18 November 2005

Stunning. In two paragraphs she openly declares the method and the motive. The lawyers will have a field day with this.

Method: Take over biology class via controversy.

Motive: Bring back 1950's style education scare tactics.

Hyperion · 18 November 2005

I'm flabbergasted by the fact that a state official can get away with sending out a blatantly pro-religion newsletter like that.

I don't know why you'd be so surprised. It's not like this is either new or uncommon in American politics. An elected politician can get away with almost anything so long as they do not blatantly violate the law and as long as they can continue to get more people to vote for them than the other guy. I'm not being cynical, and most politicians, believe it or not, are actually no more or less honest than your average citizen...such as it is...but the only real check on this sort of this is the voting public. If you believe, as many of us do, that this is completely unacceptable behavior from a public official, then the only way to stop it is to help elect someone else, either by giving your time or money to ensure that she is not re-elected. It's not as sexy as giving a Mr. Smith-esque speech about public integrity, but it's more effective than you'd think.

limpidense · 18 November 2005

Another example of the truth of the adage: "It's funny because it's true."

It is a pity this [bowel] movement of CrIntelligentDesignism isn't impotent enough to allow us to laugh entirely freely.

H. Humbert · 18 November 2005

Connie Morris's actually letter was...depressing. I expect to see such ridiculous arguments and horrendous formatting on creationist websites. But from an elected official? In my country? I don't have the words. The lunatics truly are running the asylum.

MP · 18 November 2005

I think my favorite line in the real newsletter is "The media loved the mania and often cooperated by grossly reporting a true picture of the pivotal event." (emphasis mine)

Dene Bebbington · 18 November 2005

Wow. After reading Connie Morris's newsletter all I can say is that she should be kept as far away from deciding education policy as possible.

Frank J · 18 November 2005

OK, someone on the street who hasn't given 5 minutes' thought can be excused, but how does Connie Morris, who has been following anti-evolution arguments for years, say that she "subscribe[s] to the literal depiction of the origin of life as detailed in Genesis" without:

1. Stating unequivocally which of the mutually contradictory "literal" interpretations she subscribes to, and why she thinks that the others are wrong.

2. Explaining why she is more interested in having students learn a phony "critical analysis" of evolution, one that has repeatedly shown to be faulty and misleading, instead of positive evidence to support the alternative account that she conveniently forgets to detail.

3. Demanding the lesson includes a "critical analysis" of the mutually contradictory alternatives, including the one she subscribes to.

Ignorance or dishonesty?: You decide.

steve s · 18 November 2005

Connie Morris: Ignorant
William Dembski: Dishonest

outeast · 18 November 2005

Jebeezus! I have to say that, as a work of humour, the satire is badly outclassed by the original.

csa · 18 November 2005

"By the way, lest you think this parody is excessive, compare this to a real newsletter Connie sent out this June."

The scariest part? She was a teacher.

In her book she claims that her reason for entering politics is NOT to bring glory to herself or her nation, but to bring more people into the Kingdom of Heaven.

Tim Hague · 18 November 2005

My favorite line in the newsletter is (original emphasis): "In fact, we want MORE science by CRITICALLY ANALIZING the evidence."

I think 'analizing the evidence' (that does sound painful) has joined 'ID scientits' as my favorite creationist typo to date.

Gav · 18 November 2005

Sorry, have to agree with outeast. The parody isn't a patch on the original.

bill · 18 November 2005

In her newsletter, Connie Morris writes regarding the Axis of Six,

We have worked together like a well oiled machine under the leadership of Dr. Abrams.

Finally, a use for snake oil.

Don · 18 November 2005

My favorite line was also the line mentioned by MP:

"The media loved the mania and often cooperated by grossly reporting a true picture of the pivotal event."

I loved Connie's letter. What a great parody, way better than the other parody. This is just wishing but she would seal her fate if she ever sent out a newsletter like that. If only a board member were stupid enough to reveal their utter- - (huh?) -- (what??) -- (seriously??!!) --

I'm truly flubbergusted.

Peter Henderson · 18 November 2005

I think Connie Morris's newsletter again shows the influence that the major young earth creationist groups like AIG and ICR are having on the mindset of the public towards science. OK so she's a politician and probably should know better, but this is how a lot of Christians think now.

It's also starting to happen here in the U.K. With the advent of Christian broadcasting stations like TBN, The God Channel, Daystar, and Revelation TV etc. Young Earth Creationists now have a platform to spread their message. This week I've heard two YEC's (John Mckay and Roger Oakland) saying very much the same thing as Connie Morris. To someone who has no background in science their ideas on things like flood geology etc. would sound very plausible. Why believe real scientists when these educated Christians have theories and facts that prove evolution is wrong and that the Earth is no more than a few thousand years old ?

I wonder how long it will be before a similar situation arises in here in the UK

Steve LaBonne · 18 November 2005

Hey Discovery Institute, how's that ID-is-not-religion strategy working out? Hahaha! Did you really think the rubes like Buckingham and Morris would be able to stick to your script?

Scott A · 18 November 2005

Wow. I struggle to find the right words to describe the feelings I had while reading that newsletter. Yikes.

My son is in the 5th grade in a self contained gifted program and loves science so I e mailed my school board members to ascertain their collective or personal positions on the prospect of ID and our schools curriculum. Their response, "This issue has not been raised in Scottsdale to date. I believe in letting parents teach their children about their personal religious beliefs. I do not believe that "Intelligent design" belongs in a science curriculum." Yea Scottsdale.

Mike Walker · 18 November 2005

I wonder how long it will be before a similar situation arises in here in the UK

Well, despite the fact that any "revival" in Christian fortunes is likely to be of the fundie kind, I don't think the UK is in imminent danger of becoming like Kansas. The base is too small--not enough ministers to harrangue their flock from the pulpit about the evils of evolution. And the BBC does a much better job of producing popular science shows than the major US networks with comparable ratings. No doubt satellite TV will trap a few unsuspecting folk, but from what I've seen of Sky TV, their much more likely to stumble across soft-core porn than creationism!

rdog29 · 18 November 2005

One thing that just kills me when I hear the rhetoric from IDiots & religious loonies is the "teach the alternative" crap.

When the hell are "alternatives " taught in other fields of learning?

Let's teach students how to "square the circle" or trisect an angle with a compass: let the students decide if the old mathematical dogma is correct.

Let's teach students the "alternative" theories that the Holocaust never happened, or that the Apollo moon missions were Hollywood fakes. C'mon, let's challenge the old historical fairy tales!

How about teaching alternative thermodynamics with a discussion of perpetual motion machines? After all, how many visionary, young inventors have been "crushed" by the prevailing dogma of thermodynamics?

In physiology classes, let's include a chapter on where to find the "soul". Or the chakras, or the aura.

The list goes on and on. We'll be so busy teaching alternatives, everyone will learn nothing.

Steve LaBonne · 18 November 2005

"In physiology classes, let's include a chapter on where to find the "soul"." It's in the pineal gland, I thought everybody knew that. Yours truly, René

Stephen Elliott · 18 November 2005

Posted by Peter Henderson on November 18, 2005 09:41 AM (e) (s)... It's also starting to happen here in the U.K. With the advent of Christian broadcasting stations like TBN, The God Channel, Daystar, and Revelation TV etc. Young Earth Creationists now have a platform to spread their message...

I can't say I have noticed this. Do you know of any council schools that are teaching students the controversy?

rdog29 · 18 November 2005

Pineal gland, shmineal gland!

Isn't there a Bible passage that says that the seat of the soul is the stomach? Thought I heard that somewhere....

Teach the controversy!

Tim Hague · 18 November 2005

I mentioned it an another thread, but if the fundies really want to teach the controversy they should be lobbying for comparitive religion classes (as if!).

Mike Walker · 18 November 2005

I'm just waiting for AIG or some other creationist web site to claim that the recent discovery that dinosaurs ate grass (previously thought to have evolved after they became extinct)proves that there were no carnivores before Noah's Flood.

Creation's original diet and the changes at the Fall

Julie · 18 November 2005

Wow. My first concern is that Ms. Morris may really be battling mental illness. I agree that her behavior is bound to result in an ugly court case somewhere down the line. Someone who's sending out creationist tirades on State Board of Education stationery has the potential of costing the state of Kansas a lot of money. What a waste of resources.

I hope that both Ms. Morris and the Kansas Board of Ed get the professional help they need.

drtomaso · 18 November 2005

Is that her "home" phone number and address listed at the top of the newsletter?

Far be it for me to suggest anything unethical, like MASSIVE orders placed at local pizzerias. That wouldnt be nice.

Ben · 18 November 2005

I can't say I have noticed this. Do you know of any council schools that are teaching students the controversy?

Unfortunately it is happening here too, though it tends to stay below the radar. I know from Private Eye that some millionaire bankrolls some evangelical schools in the North (although I think that they're still obliged to teach the National Curriculum, so they can't skip or dismiss evolution entirely). There's also a few UK websites I've come across that promote ID/creationism, and even a small creationist museum in Portsmouth. On the plus side, most people here seem to be rational and fairly well clued up on the fact that ID/creationism is a dishonest attempt to turn the clock back.

Stephen Elliott · 18 November 2005

Unfortunately it is happening here too, though it tends to stay below the radar. I know from Private Eye that some millionaire bankrolls some evangelical schools in the North (although I think that they're still obliged to teach the National Curriculum, so they can't skip or dismiss evolution entirely). There's also a few UK websites I've come across that promote ID/creationism, and even a small creationist museum in Portsmouth

I am also in England. Not heard about those evangelical schools you mention. I will have to look that up. I was more aware of YEC's. However so long as they aren't asking for it to be taught as science; then I am more than willing to let them believe anything they like. Not that I could do anything to stop them, just that I think people can believe whatever they like...just so long as they are not trying to force it on others (or have it taught as science).

NBPD · 18 November 2005

Here are the characteristics of the Narcissistic and Borderline Personality Disorders from the DSM-IV. Diagnosis of these disorders must be made by a qualified professional; someone possessing a majority of these traits is said to exhibit the disorder. William Dembski appears to exhibit the majority of traits of NPD. Those of you familiar with the intelligent design debate will be able to identify many traits exhibited by Mr. Dembski in the first list below. Ms. Morris's traits are less well known. BPD is much more difficult to diagnose, though it is consistent with risk-taking behavior such as drug use.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder (5 or more of the following)
  1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
  2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
  3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
  4. requires excessive admiration
  5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
  6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
  7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
  8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
  9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
Borderline Personality Disorder (5 or more of the following)
  1. frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.
  2. a pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation
  3. identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self
  4. impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating). Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.
  5. recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behavior
  6. affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days)
  7. chronic feelings of emptiness
  8. inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights)
  9. transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms

Stephen Elliott · 18 November 2005

Posted by NBPD on November 18, 2005 02:01 PM (e) (s) Here are the characteristics of the Narcissistic and Borderline Personality Disorders from the DSM-IV. Diagnosis of these disorders must be made by a qualified professional;

Bloody Hell! I think I suffer from both. Luckily I am not a professional, so my diagnosis does not count. Phew!

NBPD · 18 November 2005

Here are the characteristics of the Narcissistic and Borderline Personality Disorders from the DSM-IV. Diagnosis of these disorders must be made by a qualified professional;

Bloody Hell! I think I suffer from both. Every normal person exhibits some of these traits to varying degrees. However, they are symtomatic of real disorders that are much more serious than the traits indicating them. People suffering from these disorders are emotionally and possibly logically disconnected from reality and other people in various ways. It would be consistent for an NPD to declare after a conflict with his colleagues that "they have met their Waterloo."

Stephen Elliott · 18 November 2005

It would be consistent for an NPD to declare after a conflict with his colleagues that "they have met their Waterloo."

rofl. Good one. As an aside however; if someone was to tell me I had met my Waterloo. As an Englishman, I would take that as meaning I had triumphed.

FastEddie · 18 November 2005

I would respond more thoughtfully to Connie Morris' newsletter, but since I am an evolutionist I am in panic mode and can't think straight.

Peter Henderson · 18 November 2005

Re alternatives: The alliterative to uniformaterianism is catastrofism (in YEC eyes flood geology). Even though this was discredited 150 years ago they still seem to think that this should be taught in schools as conventional geology. Roger Oakland plugged away at this last night.

I am also amazed at the number of times I have heard YEC's claim that real scientists are aware of the facts about creation but that they just don't reveal them to the wider public. ( they seem to think there is some sort of conspiracy among evolutionists to withhold the information )

k.e. · 18 November 2005

Prof. The Honarable The Right Royal Sir Really Important Quack Scientist Dr Flexi Gerkov Ahem....adjusts white coat... I "Diagnosed" Bill at least a week ago
Don Quixote is visibly crazy to most people. He believes ordinary inns to be enchanted castles, and their peasant girls to be beautiful princesses. He mistakes windmills for oppressive giants sent by evil enchanters. He imagines a neighboring peasant to be Dulcinea del Toboso, the beautiful maiden to whom he has pledged love and fidelity. Sancho Panza, his simple squire, believes his master to be a bit crazy, in particular he knows that there is "really" no Dulcinea, but he plays along, hoping to get rich. He and Quixote agree for instance that because Dulcinea is not as pretty nor does she smell as good as she should, she "must have been enchanted", and from that point on the mission is to disenchant her. Both master and squire undergo complex change and development throughout the story, and each character takes on attributes of the other as the novel goes on. At the end of the second book, Quixote decides on his deathbed that his actions have been madness. Sancho begs him not to give up, but to no avail. Master and squire have numerous adventures, often causing more harm than good in spite of their noble intentions. They meet criminals sent to the galleys, and are victims of an elaborate prank by a pair of Dukes, when Sancho is made "governor" of the nonexistent Barataria.
Sal does a fair impersonation of Sancho Panza

BWE · 18 November 2005

http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=2258662005 "Dinosaur dung overthrows ... evolution" Interesting what you can do with a little creative editing. I should write for the DIscovery Institute.

Jason · 18 November 2005

I guess I have to bring it up again in this thread, which is on topic. I'd like to know if what this person, who claims to be a member of a local school board in Kansas is accurate and if it really is a big media show and not much else. If what he's saying is true, then why were the DI crowd popping corks when the 6-4 ruling came down. The usernames to look for are "daewoo" and "Howard Beale." http://4forums.com/political/showthread.php?t=6804

Have you read the changes? I was a little surprised when I first read them. They are a non issue. Our science advisory board LAUGHED when they read them over the fact that they were causing such controversey. They are a non issue. There are going to be NO material changes regarding how evolution will be taught. In reality, the argument for the change was won not by the creationists, but by a bunch of palentologists from Kstate who pointed out that the definiton that the school board was currently using essentailly ruled out Punctuated Equilibria (evolutionary leaps), despite the fact that the theory is better supported by the fossil record than the traditional evolutionary theory (slow changes over a long period of time).

There isn't any. As I said, I don't believe in Intelligent Design. Intelligent desing is not AT ALL mentioned in the new standards, and intelligent design cannot be taught in Kansas in any event because it is a terminable offence for a teacher in kansas to discuss religon or their religous beliefs in tha classroom outside of a purely academic discussion (we can still have comparative religon classes and such).

That is EXACTLY my point. Kansas is now using the same definition of "science" as 36 other states. That is another one that was NOT penned by the ID folks, it is widely used. The way that evolution has been taught in kansas has not materially changed, or if it has, it has changed for the better bceuase our teacghers are now allowed to teach things like the possibility of puncuated equilibrium or multiple origins of life (i.e life not all originating from 1 single strain). Both of these theories have as strong or stronger evidence than the "little change over long time" theory in many regards because we actually have concrete physical evidence for it. Also, under the old definition, "psychology" could not be considered science. I'm telling you guys, this is just a case of a bunch of chicken littles running around yelling "the sky is falling...they are teaching creationism in schools!!!". That simply is not correct. It is not even CLOSE to correct. Too many people forming opinions without consideration of the facts, and too much media looking for a sensational story where there is none.

Please someone tell me if this guy is right or wrong! Based on the standard that he gives, there is nothing for the ID folks to munch on. It does look like the same standard as 40 other states. It does look like the media is just using this for a story. But the Morris newsletter makes me realize that there must be more to it than that.

tally-ho · 18 November 2005

BWE,

I just saw your blog. You have too much time on your hands.

Jacob Stockton · 18 November 2005

Oddly enough, I had a test in my Abnormal Psycology test today on personality disorders...

Jason · 18 November 2005

BTW,

I'm sure everyone noticed the Connie Morris newsletter. At the top of the first page is screams: "DID ANYONE SAY EVOLUTION?"

Then the top of the next page it screams about evolutionists: "THE Evolutionists are in Panic Mode."

Creationists really kill me. In one breath they say they are for "science", like intellignet design, but then turn around and say crap like they believe in the literal reading of Genesis. Or ID people start defending YEC positions.

It's easy. Try it. Get into a debate with someone who says they are for ID. It's very easy to get them to defend YEC positions even though ID "theory" doesn't say everything is a result of special creation, only some things, at least those that are "irreducible complex." Hell, you can get Demski to do it as long as he's not on TV.

I doubt you'd catch Behe that way, but he gets caught up so many other ways.

For one, I thought that ID was supposed to compliment evolution, but the DI looks at it as a new form of total creationism.

You just can't nail these people down.

Mike Walker · 18 November 2005

The Unmasking of Connie Morris

In 1992, Kelly and Connie moved to Kansas to take over Kelly's parents' farm in St. Francis. Still, Connie was hurting. At a church service in Goodland, a speaker had asked parishioners to write down what they wanted most from God. Connie wrote, "I wish I had never been abused and raped." Then, she writes, the spirit of the Lord whispered to her, "I want you to thank me that you were abused." She was taken aback. "Had He been a human I might have slapped Him!" she writes. "How dare He make such a request! ... But I knew the moment was mine to grab, if only I had the nerve." Out of sight from the rest of her family, she sneaked to the back of the church, where two women prayed for her soul. Connie felt pain rip through her belly. "The Lord pulled away heartache after heartache, until I finally screamed in agony," she writes. Now, she writes, "I thank God I was abused ... So I could become who I am and write this for you."

Now that's scary.

KL · 18 November 2005

"Please someone tell me if this guy is right or wrong! Based on the standard that he gives, there is nothing for the ID folks to munch on. It does look like the same standard as 40 other states. It does look like the media is just using this for a story.

But the Morris newsletter makes me realize that there must be more to it than that."

I would like more info too. If there is nothing there, why did NSTA and AAAS withdraw their support?

RJ · 18 November 2005

JESUS APPEARS TO THOUSANDS IN VENEZUELA-APPOLOGIZES

href="http://brainwashedgod.blogspot.com/2005/11/jesus-appears-to-thousands-in.html#links

Cute

timmo · 18 November 2005

I first read the Connie Morris newsletter last night and couldn't believe my eyes; came back and read it again this evening. Then I did a quick google on "Connie Morris" - such pure ignorance must have surfaced before. One finds evidence of a truly ugly person, but sad to say, no other 'newsletters'.

Small wonder George Will is feeling a little edgy about the Republican coallition. Seems he just woke up and saw the ogre's face on the next pillow.

steve s · 18 November 2005

"THE Evolutionists are in Panic Mode."

Why should I panic? These people don't represent a threat to anything. What am I supposed to be afraid of? Is the Blue Fairy going to come down and turn William Dembski into a real scientist? Ain't Skeered.

Stephen Elliott · 18 November 2005

Why should I panic? These people don't represent a threat to anything.

Except reason and good scientific education in Kansas.

Julie · 18 November 2005

Mike Walker linked to The Unmasking of Connie Morris
I'll spot Connie Morris the benefit of the doubt and assume she's telling the truth about her early years and her eventual decision to give up drugs and poor sexual choices. If her religion really gave her the strength to give up self-destructive behavior, more power to her -- building one's own personal integrity is one of the activities that religion can support, and does for many people. But, if true, one of the saddest stories on the linked page isn't even about the abuse that she supposedly experienced -- it's the story about her losing her youth-group leadership for using the word "vagina" in a cautionary tale to her charges about not tolerating sexual abuse. Think about it. She describes a subculture so benighted that the use of an anatomically correct term for a human sexual organ -- in a discussion with students who are already past puberty and hear much less clinical sexual language from their peers -- is considered offensive and disreputable. If your own body is dirty, most secular literature is filth, the naturalistic scientific method is heretical, and the "loving" God of your church is constantly spoiling for an excuse to beat you up, what kind of a life are you supposed to expect? Of course, maybe Morris is just a histrionic sort and is making most or all of it up, or is distorting the truth of what really happened. I hate to say "I hope so", because it seems cruel to hope that a person is "merely" mentally ill instead of telling horrible truths. But the alternative is also awful to contemplate. It brings up images of kids getting pregnant or catching STDs because they don't understand the biology of sex, and of the women who used to die of curable cervical cancers because they were too embarrassed to see a doctor. As the old bumper sticker used to say: If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?

Tiax · 18 November 2005

Please someone tell me if this guy is right or wrong! Based on the standard that he gives, there is nothing for the ID folks to munch on. It does look like the same standard as 40 other states. It does look like the media is just using this for a story.

The reason he is wrong is that the Kansas definition removed the word 'natural' and replaced it with 'adequate.' Sure, ID isn't an adequate explanation of anything, but that's a very qualitative judgement that I don't trust the Kansas school board to make. ID is 100% undeniably outside the realm of 'natural' causes, and thus would not stand a chance under the old standards. The new standards can be found at http://www.ksde.org/outcomes/sciencestd.pdf on page 10, the point of interest reads:

Science is a systematic method of continuing investigation that uses observations, hypothesis testing, measurement, experimentation, logical argument and theory building to lead to more adequate explanations of natural phenomena. Science does so while maintaining strict empirical standards and healthy skepticism. Scientific explanations are built on observations, hypotheses, and theories. A hypothesis is a testable statement about the natural world that can be used to build more complex inferences and explanations. A theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can incorporate observations, inferences, and tested hypotheses.

A draft of the old standards that I managed to locate can be found here: http://www.ksde.org/outcomes/sciencestdsintro.pdf The information can be found in the same location. Note that places that previously mentioned natural explanations, and denied the role of supernaturalism are now gone. In a related note, I found this article over that Center for Science and Culture in which they attempt to defend the new standards: http://www.evolutionnews.org/2005/11/kansas_definition_of_science_c.html Unfortunately, THEY ARE DEFENDING THE OLD DRAFT OF THE STANDARDS. Given that this article is dated november 15, and the new standards were approved november 8, it would seem that our friends over at the Center are either completely incompetent, or outright lying.

Mike Walker · 18 November 2005

I'll spot Connie Morris the benefit of the doubt and assume she's telling the truth about her early years and her eventual decision to give up drugs and poor sexual choices. If her religion really gave her the strength to give up self-destructive behavior, more power to her --- building one's own personal integrity is one of the activities that religion can support, and does for many people.

Yeah, I'd like to give her the benefit of the doubt too, but the tale she tells of her youth is so appalling that I begin to wonder. The more "out there" Christian fundamentalists often wear tales of a wayward youth as a badge of honour (and somehow without leaving a paper trail like a prison record) as if to make their conversion more meaningful, more miraculous. I've often had doubts about their stories. They sound, at the very least, embellished to me. If the story is true, it is a terrible tale, and goes some way to explain (but not excuse) her current behaviour. But it was the last line I quote that I find astounding. That God should insist she thank him for all the appalling abuse she went through just so would become a saver of souls. I know most Christians don't think this way and it strikes me more as a coping mechanism than a theologically sound position. At least I hope it is.

steve s · 19 November 2005

Comment #58756 Posted by Stephen Elliott on November 18, 2005 06:59 PM (e) (s) Why should I panic? These people don't represent a threat to anything.

Except reason and good scientific education in Kansas. Something tells me the Enlightenment flame will probably survive Connie Morris.

Stuart Weinstien · 20 November 2005

Forgive me, but after reading Connie Morris's brief Bio "book is Connie's story of recovery through Christ from incest, rape, domestic violence, substance abuse, and poverty during her early years in the Appalachian Mountains region.", I was unable to get dueling banjos out of my head for three days.